I was handily beating an opponent. I was not repetitively
moving a piece but my opponent was. He moved his rook back and forth 4 times and the game was called a draw.
First how can this be? It is not a draw scenario. Second,
I think it is bad sportsmanship to play for a draw in this manor.
If I read this rule correctly a player can manifest a draw
anytime the want. I have made the required repetitive
moves before and no draw was called. The ruling is
confusing and inconsistent. A player who is losing should
NOT be rewarded for moving a single piece back and forth
and lichess should eliminate it from its program.
Unless of course it is part of Gicko 2 which I dont think so.
The position the board has to be repeated three times not the moves. So, if you make a diferent move your oponnent cannot claim a draw.
Both players have to repeat for it to be a draw. If you are winning, why would you keep going back to the exact same position you already had? That means you have made no progress at all and are just going around in circles.
It has to be repeated three times, which means if you didn't find the right way to proceed in the position you can go back once and you do get a second chance at it. But if you still can't find a way to make progress, you don't get a third chance.
The rule about threefold repetition is that you can claim a draw, not that a draw is automatically awarded. But I think there is a setting on lichess to automatically claim the draw if a repetition happens and you have less than 30 sec on the clock, so might not have time to notice and claim.
Btw not every position that looks winning to you is really winning. For example in endings there are so-called "fortress positions" where one side can have considerably more material but does not have any way to break into the opponent's "fortress".
Bottom line is it's only winning if you actually know how to win it, and if you're going around in circles then you've demonstrated that you don't, so the opponent is entitled to claim a draw.
Similarly there's the "50 move rule" which says the game is a draw if it goes for 50 moves with no captures or pawn moves, so basically no one has made any progress at all.
I think the game are refering to is this one
http://nl.lichess.org/7FEcic2l#108on move 54 you have this position
On move 56 you have the same position
and finally on 58 you have the same position.
Here a button "Claim draw" appear and the game is declared drawn
Altough you were winning you reapted moves so it was drawn
I did not know that my moves did not have to be simultaneous
but I apparently repeated spots on the board at close enough intervals. Thank you for analyzing the game. Was there a way
to decline the draw when the claim draw button appeared?
No there was not
The thing is he also gets one and he was probs happy to get a draw.
You can also have in your setting to auto claim then no button appears and it instanly claims
"A player who is losing should
NOT be rewarded for moving a single piece back and forth
and lichess should eliminate it from its program".
when a position get repeated three times, a player can claim draw, is a chess rule >:c period.
Why did you keep moving your Queen here? why not just go for the kill with the Rook or move your pawns up to promote to yet another piece?